I'm Just Sayin'…#46
by Greg Manuel on February 4, 2009

Hey everybody!

Sorry I’m late, I had to pull myself away from the debates over at PulseWrestling.com and their Top 100 Wrestlers of the Modern EraHulk Hogan at Number Three? You’re KIDDING me, right?but then I remembered I’d best get back over here so I can bust y’all upside the head with this week’s edition of…

What looks to be the ultimate appeal of today’s Big Two mega-events is the volume of discussion and analysis they generate, and there is still plenty to discuss – and plenty of questions to ask - about FINAL CRISIS #7. As a matter of fact, if you’d been checking in periodically on last week’s column, you’ll see that Aaron Glazer and I were throwin’ down pretty heavy over in the Comments section! Seriously Aaron, we gotta hang out sometime – throw back a few, debate some comics, debate some wrestling, throw back a few more, maybe get into a fistfight…it’ll be a blast!

But before we get back into all of that, I wanna make a brief stop into some other news…

Let’s see, is there anything to discuss over in the Marvel world? Joe Quesada looks to be very happy with the slated director for the upcoming film adaptation of THE MIGHTY THOR. Newsarama.com is sporting a headline to that effect: Joe Quesada says director Kenneth Branagh gets it. I’m sure after directing, producing and/or starring in HAMLET for the twenty-four-hundredth time, that totally made Kenny B’s day…mmmmmnaaaah, that was too mean. What d’you think? Too mean?

Last week began the latest AMAZING SPIDER-MAN* storyarc, the title of which begs the question…

“Character Assassination:” Very late warning, or blatant taunt? It could really go either way, couldn’t it?

Man, Grant’s got us looking for subtext everywhere nowadays!

Probably the best news I’ve uncovered all week, courtesy of COMICS SHOULD BE GOOD:

Quoting Greg Burgas: A new ATOMIC ROBO series! On page 296 from Red 5 Comics! Just buy it already, will you?

Quoting Greg Manuel: SIR, YES SIR!! MORE ATOMIC ROBO PLEASE, SIR! *Ahem* Okay…I’m okay now. And with that, we return to FINAL CRISIS!

Aaron made a very good point about various representations throughout the event, including how Morrison set up Superman and his various analogues as “Fiction’s last line of defense…”

Led by the most recognizable Superman analogue of them all. Nice touch.

And the Monitors as “Editors and Readers refusing to think, refusing to put things together and trying to make changes as they see fit.”

"Tahoteh." I hear that's how you spell "Quesada" in Klingon.

To which I had replied, “which character represents the writer engaged in such gargantuan levels of hubris and self-satisfaction that’d make Icarus himself go, “whoa, that guy’s playin’ with fire!”? I still don’t know the answer to that question, but if I were the gambling sort, I’d tell you who I think Grant Morrison thinks he is…

Anybody wanna take odds?

 

But Aaron asked another few questions that, now that I think about it, I’m going to address in this week’s column.

GLAZER: How much of the problem is our perceptions of what to expect from the medium and more specifically from mainstream event comics?

I don’t think the problem is perception or expectation of mainstream event comics. It’s expectation of any form of storytelling. What I expect from any literary venture, be it comic, novel, short story or whatever, is a clear telling of what happened. At first read, I should’ve been able to understand the following:

  • The combined efforts of Superman, the Flashes and Wonder Woman drove Darkseid’s essence from the body of Dan Turpin.
  • Superman and Supergirl then built a copy of the Miracle Machine that Braniac 5 showed the former in the 30th Century.
  • Once Darkseid was defeated and the Miracle Machine activated, Superman, his analogues and the Green Lantern Corps pulled Earth Zero from the black hole created by Darkseid’s fall.

And unless you know how Grant Morrison operates, or you’ve been reading every DC comic that he’s written since ANIMAL MAN, that’s not going to be very clear. Since I only have a cursory understanding of the Morrison method, are my perceptions and expectations the problem? We’ll come back to that in just a second.

GLAZER: How appropriate was Grant’s choosing to expand our (comics’) horizons in what is meant to be a mainstream, mass consumption event, something which has traditionally been done in a “popcorn flick” format?

It is absolutely appropriate, no question about it. Especially considering the sheer volume of these “events” that we’ve been subject to over the last few years. After a point, we need something a little different to set an event apart from others, to give it a real sense of scope that tells the reader that this isn’t going to be “just another” event. So yes. Expand away. There’s a “but” coming, but let’s get to the third question:

GLAZER: Finally, even if we don’t particularly like these ideas during this format, is it arguable that it is bad, or rather, without merit to try out breaking new ground within the genre?

Absolutely not. Breaking new ground is what it’s about. It’s what keeps things from getting stagnant. And now comes the “but” – But you have to meet your audience halfway, and in FINAL CRISIS #7 Grant Morrison came up short in that regard.

A comic book reader’s top expectation is to be led through a comprehensible beginning, middle and end. Even if I don’t know how Grant Morrison usually approaches a story, even if I’m gonna have a whole ton of things to analyze, debate and discuss after I read a Grant Morrison story, I should be able to understand what the characters did in the story.

This is a lesson I learned performing comedy – when I construct a joke, no matter how much I’ve been itching to tackle this subject or that, my primary objective is not to make the audience think. It’s to make them laugh. And in joke construction, I have to be very cognizant of what I’m doing. I have to give them just enough so that they’ll infer the punch-line on their own – every good joke leaves something deliberately unsaid – but I have to be careful not to give them too much or too little, because that will kill the joke.

Now, there’s been many a situation where I will throw a joke out there that I think is gold, but there is no reaction. I used to blame the audience for not “getting” me, but then I realized that, as the creative party, I didn’t do my job in giving the audience enough to connect with what I was putting out there. It’s not their fault nor is it mine. I just didn’t strike the proper balance. Here’s a whole slew of examples – feel free to judge for yourself as to how often I hit my mark.

Oh, and before I forget, [BEGIN DIGRESSION] I just have to say, when I was enumerating the various things I enjoyed about FINAL CRISIS, I can’t believe that I forgot one…perhaps my new favorite character ever. That’s right, I’m talking about the leader of the modern-day Forever People: MOST EXCELLENT SUPERBAT!

His super-power? ”I am so rich that I can do anything.” There’s really nothing else you can say to that except, well…hell YEAH. MOST EXCELLENT SUPER-BAT, FTW! [END DIGRESSION]

AND NOW, JUST CUZ I FEEL LIKE IT…

"Two weary travelers in a world where it seems everybody's out to get them. An innocent wanderer and an international criminal mastermind. Lovers with nowhere to hide." - Bob the Annoying

Til next week – Greg Manuel here, just sayin’ is all…


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  • http://lysad.blogspot.com Manolis Vamvounis

    wow

    very good review of fnal crisis greg… i think u captured eXACTLY where it went wrong

  • Mr. Q

    Final Crisis had a lot of promise (much more than Secret Invasion, but that’s just me) but somehow it got lost along the way. Grant is a very creative person when it comes to writing, its almost like composing music. But this is one story that skipped a few beats.

    As for Spider-Man and the “character assassination”, that job was already done. Joe Q signed the order and some would say he pulled the trigger.

    Mr. Q

  • Aaron Glazer

    I am pleased and we have met half way on Final Crisis. I essentially agree with you, I just got annoyed at others’ knee jerk reaction about the event without actually thinking about it. If a certain Greek editor would pull these together into a coherent whole (your original, my replies, your responses, etc), we’d absolutely have a hit on our hands.

    My aim is hbk826 and my email is the same @gmail. Catch me on either. You’ve got to be doing Comic-Con, right.. RIGHT? That’s a perfect opportunity to geek out then grab some drinks. If not, I’ll make a comedy show soon. I’d have made one sooner but was in a weird clingy relationship (See Radio Exile’s Shawn Smith for more and to be entertained by this… and really, just read Radio Exile, cause that shit is awesome). So, Comic Con or next comedy show.

    And finally, something I just now realized about Shazam! leading the defenders of fiction. He’s the ultimate escapist fantasy. The kid in us who reads comics to get away from being a put-upon 11-year-old. Shazam is where we start our love of superheroes, as the child who just wants a magic word to escape to a realm of the fantastic. I think that right there is my favorite part of what Grant did and some cool shit though I literally stopped reading when I got to the power of being “so rich I can do anything” to die laughing and tell everyone I could find how awesome that was.

  • http://lysad.blogspot.com Manolis Vamvounis

    p.s. guys, give Spidey a chance… i’m enjoying the books too much right now, i can’t realy see everyone’s problem with it anymore. my big hangup was Harry’s return from the dead, but that was finally dealt with a few weeks back. essentially Harry HAD died, he just came back in a totally unrelated-to-Mephisto fashion thanks to Norman’s machinations. as the editors keep saying apart from downgrading the wedding to a live-together committed long term relationshup (i.e. breaking peter and mj didn’t make pete a divorcee), everything is still in, and i even hear theyre planning on addresing what happened with pete’s unmasking in civil war…

    spiderman has never been more true to peter parker’s character than how he is now…

  • Aaron Glazer

    Give it up Manolis. The entire staff besides you hates current Spidey. Terrible editiorial decisions ruin shit for us and make a product less worthy of supporting.

  • http://comicsnexus.com/author/gmguity/ Greg Manuel

    VERY nice catch there, Aaron – it’s a thing like that, that makes me wonder why Captain Marvel/SHAZAM! doesn’t get more love, in general. I guess that’s why they’ve got Mike “Herobear & the Kid” Kunkel taking that one on…although frankly I’d rather he be giving us more HEROBEAR & THE KID, but still!

    One thing I rather liked, was the way that the DC’s Big Three all had a hand in dispatching Darkseid, in their own ways. Batman used a gun (which is kind of a rough fit, unless you allow for his earliest stories, when he was bustin’ caps in vampire monks), Wonder Woman used her lasso to drive him out of the humans he possessed, and Superman had the most extraordinary method…by somehow shattering his very essence with his Super-vocal chords!

    Alas, as you’ve probably already deduced, I wasn’t going to be able to make the NYCC this past weekend (people who went – please write in!) As it is, my budget is only going to allow for two conventions this year, and those aren’t going to be until the latter half of the year – I’m looking to pitch an OGN idea in Chicago and Baltimore, respectively – but as always, if there’s a comedy show I can tell everyone about I will be sure to do so here!

  • Aaron Glazer

    Shazam doesn’t get more love because Superman is in DC too and no one seems passionate about differentiating the too despite the obvious differences, they’re too busy worshiping at the alter of Supes.

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