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Hope everyone survived our hiatus last week. I apologize, but I just took a vacation from everything. Tim, what did you do on your week off from the column last week?

What didn’t I do?! I saw a play that a couple of my friends were in, I got a promotion, I saw X3, I spent time with Janelle, visited some relatives in Philly, ate much barbecue and generally reclaimed my life.

Thank goodness this column is back so I don’t have to do that again.


Links

IP Music has plenty of reviews of the latest summer releases.

IP Movies has thoughts on summer blockbusters.

IP Games is making me really look forward to November.

IP Figures has some of the best visuals on the site.

IP TV has rundowns on all of the networks upcoming Fall Schedules. It’s like a glimpse into the future.

IP Sports has nothing but bad news for me, as I was aiming for a Dallas/Detroit NBA Finals.

Moodspins should be amazing in June!

IP Culture has some books ideas for hammock reading.

Our DC Forum has continuing debate about 52 Green Arrow and thoughts on Blue Beetle.

Tim, are you going to link?

You bet I am! And to what? Why that would be the site for Rescue Me which is returning for a new season on FX and, judging by this week’s season premiere, is just as great as ever.


What I Read Last Week Recently

All-Star Batman & Robin #4 – I like this book. I dig the act that Bats is putting on. I’m loving Dick’s role. This is just a fun book, people need to chill out.

100 Bullets #72 – I hate the “croatoa” cliffhanger. They always make the month seem to drag.

Fell #5 – This was the issue you were supposed to try Tim. Give it a shot. It’s a pretty good read. You can consider it one of the books you owe me for “Up, Up and Away.”

Consider it done. I’ll snag it this week when I hit up my store for glorious new comics.

Fallen Angel #5 – How do you kill Juris? How can you kill Juris?! I’m so glad that this book found a new home, as I’ve fallen in love with Lee all over again.

Manhunter #22 – Nice to see the gossip reporter return, as well as the Kilg%re. I do hope that the Mark Shaw storyline gets wrapped up before the axe falls.

I’m greedy, so I want it all to be wrapped up. Something tells me that I’m being a little too optimistic if I think that’s going to happen though. (And that something is another great series called “Hourman”.)

52 Week Two – Yes, more Montoya and The Question. And nice to see some of the brains of the DCU talk.

Green Arrow #62 – I enjoyed the book. I liked Ollie’s plan. I didn’t find Deathstroke vastly out of character. I am hoping that Connor and Mia get addressed kind of soon.

DMZ #7 – Matty is way noided. I am getting a better feel for the book, and I think that it’s beginning to hit its stride.

Aquaman #42 – Interesting. I’d like to find out more about the Geist connection and where Arthur is. I’m still holding out hope that Garth is tentacle face.

Nova #2 – I’m glad that there was some explanation for how drastically Drax has changed. Nova is even on the verge of being interesting.

Somewhere, Ben Morse smiled while you wrote those words, but doesn’t know why.

Superman/Batman #25 – This book could have been worse. It did seem a bit too lighthearted in the light moments, which makes it difficult to reconcile with the heavy moments within the same storyline. Still, it wasn’t an unsatisfactory resolution.

Shadowpact #1 – Less than perfect, but not the worst thing I’ve ever read. I found the art a bit choppy at times, which was a letdown because I enjoyed Willingham’s older art. The story seemed to have an abrupt ending.

I agree with all of that.

Also, Detective Chimp in a uniform? Booooooooooo.

Bite Club: VCU #1 & 2 – I don’t quite dig the new narrative voice. I miss the emphasis on the Del Toro family. The cops just don’t do it for me. But the end of #2 was shocking.

Teen Titans #36 – I loved how Chief was portrayed. I dug Robin and Mento’s portrayals as well. It might be lacking the “family” vibe of the earlier issue, but the suspense and creepiness within this issue made up for it.

I think the lack of family vibe is sort of the point of the book right now. In any case, it works for me. However, I think this title needs to find a direction (as opposed to a “feeling”) pretty quick here or I could find myself drifting away.

Loveless #7 – Great use of flashbacks. Great insight into Ruth as a character. Azzarello really has a knack for voice. I really can’t wait for Wes to take center stage again.

Green Lantern #11 – This is the issue I’ve been waiting for! Finally we get to see the resentment other Corps members have for Hal. It was worth the wait. It was also great to see Hal rebel against the Guardians like old times again.

Detective #819– Man, I feel really bad for poor Harvey. He’s such a tortured soul. It was a great conversation/monologue. But I am going to miss Harvey.

I, too, will miss Harvey. On the other hand, we did get Two-Face back though. I guess you can say I’m of two minds on the subject.

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Thank you, thank you. I’m here all week.

52 Week Three – This is why I love Lex. This is also why I love Steel. And I’m pretty sure this is why I love Black Adam. Needless to say I’m loving this book.

Blue Beetle #3 – I do hope that we get to find out more about the Posse. Seeing Jamie test his abilities was cool. I really dug how he tried to take over, but really lacked the skills to perform. And the guest art team did a great job of aping the regular style.

Checkmate #2 – I enjoyed #1, but this issue was so much better. I enjoyed the conflict within Checkmate. I enjoyed pretty much everything except the coupling between Sasha and Michael (though that might be a personal thing.)

The coupling did not really bother me despite it sort of coming out of nowhere (the beauty of OYL), but I respect that it didn’t please you. I think this issue was miles more satisfying than #1.

X Factor #7 – Oh my goodness was this issue great! Theresa’s reaction to her pop’s death was refreshing realistic, in a comic book sense. Jamie is well on the way to becoming one of my favorite characters. This is one of the best team books out.

This is probably the most universally liked issue amongst the Nexus family in some time. Great installment.

Squadron Supreme #3 – Nice to see some African heroes (I so dug their stance) but the issue just seemed “eh” to me. I think I’m going through Nighthawk withdrawal. I hope that this book can undo the mess that was his mini.

Way too abrupt an ending here. This book is best when it builds slow; JMS, don’t rush things, please.

Hawkgirl #52 – I’m way less than satisfied with this book. It’s been three OYL issues, and it feels like nothings happened, no progress has been made. I’m officially done with this title.

Catwoman #55 – Oh, do I love this book! Pfeifer has made me love the Film Freak. The scene with Selina getting back into costume was priceless as well as realistic. I’m so glad that I gave this book a shot, because it’s been one of the more fulfilling OYL purchases.

Secret Six #1 – This book was a let down. The art disappointed. The story didn’t hook me. This book just felt flat to me. I didn’t even care who the newest member was.

I liked the new member a lot and the reasons for recruiting him made sense to me. I agree with you on the art though.

JSA Classified #12 – Vandal Savage is the greatest villain ever. I really hope he manages to get out of this jam.

Supergirl & the Legion of Super Heroes #18 – I loved how Brainy was portrayed. I’ve often felt like Brainy, where you can see what others lack the vision to see. I’m glad that his secret is finally out and I’m curious what Dream Boy holds for the team.

Battle For Bludhaven #4 – Yes! More superfluous characters, this time in the form of the Nuclear Family! Tim, this really is the comic book equivalent of Showgirls. This book is so bad it’s great!

I’ll have to take your word for that because I just couldn’t do it anymore. I gladly left that one on the shelf.

The American Way #4 – Creepy stuff. It’s really hard to believe that this part of history is pretty recent. It’s hard to think that the country could have even been like that. But this really is a good mini.

Black Panther #16 – Hudlin did a great job this issue of showing reaction to the impending nuptials. I really enjoyed the various trips to the corners of the Marvel U.

Hellblazer #220 – Poor Johnny, got taken for a ride. It’s really kind of interesting to see John actually be a step behind, since he’s usually ten ahead. It’s quite refreshing. Mina is really making her mark on this book.


Gaz is a few Crises behind.

I started reading DC just after Legends, so missed out on Crisis on Infinite Earths.

I have just taken the time to read the original Crisis for the first time and have got a few of questions about the Crisis and the Pre-Crisis DCU…

Where is Hal Jordan? He’s not present at all, and isn’t even mentioned except for a throwaway line by John Stewart, who says “I’ve replaced that other Lantern”. I am not a huge follower of GL, but was always led to believe that Hal was this huge iconic DC figure, so why wasn’t he involved with the Crisis (both storyline wise and from an editorial point of view)?

I don’t know if you can tell, but I’ve gone completely “fanboy” right now. Y’see this question takes me back to when I first started getting comics on a regular basis.

But to answer your question, Hal Jordan wasn’t Green Lantern anymore. Hal was one of the best Green Lanterns around, however he didn’t really do the whole “patrol sector 2814” thing that often. He pretty much based his operations on Earth, and the Guardians of the Universe didn’t take kindly to that.

Thus the Guardians banished Hal from Earth for a year. For one whole year Hal Jordan had to make his home in space and patrol his entire sector of space. It made for some great stories and some tense moments. But it also put a strain on his relationships back on Earth, particularly with Carol Ferris, his on again/off again girlfriend.

So by the time Green Lantern #181 rolled around Hal was back on Earth and had decided to give up being a Green Lantern in order to devote more of his life to Carol Ferris, and being Hal Jordan. And with that issue Hal was no longer Green Lantern.

(As a kid I so couldn’t relate to Hal; it made no sense to me that he’d give up being Green Lantern, the coolest of all the heroes, for a girl?)

Yeah! Especially given the high rate of cooties amongst girls.

Hal didn’t become Green Lantern again until Green Lantern #198, so for nearly a year and a half Hal was just a leather bomber wearing guy who chased after both the Predator and Carol Ferris’ heart. During that time John Stewart took up the role of Green Lantern for 2814 and the Crisis happened.

There wasn’t really an editorial reason, other than following continuity established in Green Lantern.

Tim, you don’t really care for either Hal Jordan or the Crisis; why come?

Wait, wait, wait! Just one second there good sir. You dishonor me by misstating my opinion on the venerable Mr. Jordan. I actually do like him. He was my father’s favorite DC character when he was a kid (Thor was his favorite Marvel one, if you are curious) and thus I have a sort of inherited affection/appreciation for him. I quite liked him as his “classic” self in JLA: Year One and The Brave and the Bold. I damn near loved him as the tragically evil Parallax. Heck, I even enjoyed his return to ring slinger in Rebirth.

However, I started to read GL just prior to Emerald Twilight. Therefore, it’s Kyle, not Hal, who is “my” Lantern in the great debate. Also, I don’t love his current “near flawless” incarnation because I prefer some pathos, shortcomings, and indecision to my heroes. But as for the “man” himself…we’re cool.


“Tim! What do I have to do…to make you love me?!”

As far as Crisis goes, I respect it. It accomplished a lot for DC and arguably rescued it from incomprehensibility. It has some memorably moments, no doubt on that. All that said, as a story, I don’t find it all that compelling. The narrative often left me disinterested for long spans of pages. I occasionally had to remind myself to read it, not just scan. I certainly don’t hate it, but I have no desire to revisit it either.


Gaz’s news cycle runs more like 20 hours…tops.

How did the Earth 1 Clark, Lois and Lana Lang(?) end up working for a TV station rather than the Daily Planet newspaper. Wasn’t that a huge break from the traditional Superman mythos?

I suppose it was a big deal, but the Silver Age was a wacky time. It kind of makes sense that those characters would evolve, because you can only go but so far in print journalism, a field that Scoop Scanlon has on lock!

What happened was that the Daily Planet was purchased by Morgan Edge who, like most media moguls, was maniacal and a bit crazy. However when Edge’s GBS television station started attracting viewers Edge moved Clark up to the anchor chair where he was working alongside Lana. Lois also made the jump from print to broadcast.

While it was break from mythos with the lack of the Daily Planet, it did manage to keep the “crusading reporter” aspect intact and add the wrinkle of being on the news to keep Clark from his role as Superman. It also mirrored the near monopolization of news outlets that’s become commonplace in this day and age.

Tim, could you accept Clark as a TV personality, or should he stick to bylines?

I think being a TV anchorman would be a logistical nightmare for Clark to negotiate. Ducking out of a print newsroom is mildly difficult as best. Ducking out of a live newscast though…that’s bound to raise questions.

I’ll give you that it makes some sense to have Clark (and Lois) on TV if you are angling for always having them on the frontlines of the news cycle. Of course, that means that now they’d probably have to transition to website news or blog news.

Overall, I think the newspaper angle has a timeless sort of feel to it and makes the most sense given Clark’s “other job”.

Also, consider this: how many “real” reporters do TV news versus print news?

Finally, have you ever seen a newspaper writer on, I don’t know, the Daily Show or the Colbert Report? Soooo stiff. I imagine the (news)Man of Steel would suffer a similar fate.


Gaz’s memories are getting fuzzy.

By the end of the series, those who were present at the fight with the Anti-Monitor at the beginning of time still remembered the Multiverse and those who died. Obviously at some point they all must have forgotten all of this – had this occurred by the next issue of each series (so in the next issue of JSA and Superman, they’d instantly forgotten about Huntress, Robin, Wonder Woman, Supergirl, etc) or was it more of a gradual thing?

It was a gradual thing. It seemed as though the further away from the actual Crisis the less people remembered. For instance when the Matrix Supergirl first appeared, Superman responded by calling her “Kara” and they first encountered each other in Superman #20.

The Crisis cleared up some continuity but there was a pinch of lack of editorial direction afterward that messed things up. For instance, allowing Wonder Woman to relaunch in the present day with her debut in the Man’s World, while Batman and Superman had been active for years at that point. And not having a clear company line in regards to what was remember about The Crisis and what wasn’t.

However as time went on it became clear that folks forgot what was in place before the Crisis.

Tim, do you think that the lack of editorial oversight in this case was a huge deal?

For me, nah, no biggie. But obviously it was/is for some. How do I know? Well, check out Infinite Crisis. We’d probably still have had some sort of Crisis this year because of the anniversary and all that, but it might not have made special efforts to fix some the “problems” that occurred in the wake of CoIE. For example, Wonder Woman is a founding JLA member once more, not Black Canary.


Gaz is all wet

Who was Aquagirl and was she remembered Post-Crisis?

Oh Tula, no one even mourns you anymore. You’re forgotten. Even Kole gets more love than you do.

Ok, so you did make an appearance in Teen Titans #31 alongside some other deceased Titans, but you still barely get mentioned at Titan gatherings. It’s really just a shame.

Tula was orphaned (surprise!) as a child. However she did manage to land a cool foster family with the Atlantis royals. (What adoption agency set that one up?) Later she hooked up with Aqualad and the two adventured together. The two then hooked up in the romantic sense (Wow…pseudo-incest…just like real royality).

They were an item when she died during The Crisis. But she continued to haunt Garth for years and was a powerful force in that great Tempest miniseries from nearly a decade ago.

Sadly, with there still being no word on whether or not Tempest made it out of the Spectre’s attack on Atlantis ok, it seems like Tula is destined to be one of those characters who aren’t really mourned by too many. Y’know, like Sue Dibny.

Tim, do you care about Aquagirl?

Jeez…I don’t know. I’ve been pretty hard on obscure characters who no longer appear anywhere or are dead lately. Plus, she does have a cute outfit.

Oh what the heck! Sure, I miss Aquagirl.


Julian S seeks our sage wisdom

What conditions persuade you to stop collecting a title, and how long does it take. I thought the Bogdanove/Janke run on that Superman title stank…I hated the art, but kept the title for the storyline continuity. Yet, when Titans got bad (and did it ever) it had to go. How do YOU judge these things?

I don’t know if you can compare the run on the Superman book with The Titans. The Superman titles were very interconnected during the 90’s, so you really couldn’t afford to drop just one title, however The Titans was a lone book and could be dropped like a hot potato, provided you aren’t a loyal fool like myself, who stuck with the book until the bitter (yet oddly relieving) end.

How do I judge these things? With my heart. I dropped JLA Classified two chapters into Simone’s arc because I really wasn’t enjoying it. I’m not that much of a completist that I’ve got to have every issue of JLA Classified and I didn’t want to spend any more money on a story that I was dreading reading.

More to the point, the current issue of Hawkgirl will probably the last one for me. I find the story boring, and I really don’t care about the mystery. Maybe it’s because the story doesn’t really seem to be taking place in the DCU (and by that I mean it’s entirely too self contained) but I’m just not enjoying the title, and I’ve been reading the book since #1.

By the same token, while I loathed The Flash after Geoff Johns left, I’d have suffered through years of bad tales because I’d been reading that title since #1, and would have wanted to keep that run alive.

I suppose it really boils down to having a light at the end of the tunnel. It made it much easier to keep buying The Flash knowing that the end was near and I’d have stayed with JSA because I knew that Levitz’s dreadful run was a brief one. On the other hand, Hawkgirl seems to be going nowhere and I’ve got no reason the book will ever get better than it is right now.

As for how long it takes, I used OYL as a “jumping off point” for the Superman titles, with which was at least bored (Adventures of Superman) and at most hated (Action Comics). I’m giving Aquaman at least a storyline because I dig the story, I want to see how it links up with the previous continuity, and I dig the art. Hawkgirl is getting the axe right now because I am about as ambivalent about the characters as one can be. So I guess it varies.

Sadly I don’t get to drop too many titles, because quite a few of the titles that I truly enjoy get canceled, thus I’m really never in a bind financially. That’s good financially, but bad for the quality books that I love where get the axe.

Tim, you’re much quicker to judge than I am, how long does it take you to drop a book and what the criteria that it’s got to meet?

My dropping period really depends on several factors. Let me give you some examples to let you know what goes into this decision.

If it’s a title I’m trying cold, without recommendation, and it’s been running for awhile, I’ll usually jump in at the start of an arc and give it about three issues to grab me.

If all is the same in the above scenario except someone recommended the title for me, I’ll give it a story arc.

For a miniseries, I’ll usually pick up the first issue. If I’m intrigued enough to buy the second, chances are I’m buying the whole thing. There are some exceptions to this rule, however. The most recent would be Battle for Bludhaven which was bad enough that I was halfway through the mini and decided to let it go.

A brand new title I will typically give an arc to find its footing and some sort of rhythm.

A long running series that is changing over a creative team that has been with the book for awhile will usually get dropped unless the new team is one I’m very excited for. This is especially the case if I have sort of grown tired of a book but am hanging on for the end of the current team’s run, as I did with Mark Waid’s time on Flash. Good thing I came back on a whim or I’d have missed Geoff Johns’ excellent tenure.

As implied above, the upcoming end of a creative team’s run is sometimes enough to keep me on a book that I am so-so on. Similarly, a series I am considering dropping that is announced to be cancelled soon I will usually hang with until the end.

Long running series with a stable creative team are probably my kryptonite. I find them hardest to quit and yet, the ones I am most happy to be rid of. Usually quality does not tank overnight in these books so that makes it harder to really define when to jump off. Basically, when I reach the end of my rope with a book like that, I give it one more issue. But, it takes a while to reach the end of my rope.

Whew…I think that covers everything.

As far as how I evaluate a book, my criteria usually run like this.

1.) Plotting- Am I interested in where the book is going and how it’s getting there?
2.) Writing- Is the dialogue “real”, powerful, or just laughable? Does it give me any feel for the characters or could anyone be saying it?
3.) Characters- Are these characters I love? Do I love them enough to stick with an otherwise mediocre (or worse book)? (I asked this of myself in reference to the Titans series. And the answer was no, so it was dropped like a bad habit.)
4.) Creators- Do I like these creators? Do they usually let me down or deliver? Do slow starts or lulls characterize their work but they still deliver in the end?
5.) Art- Does it appeal to me? Does it fit the story? Am I going blind looking at it?

That’s a general order of importance to me. Obviously excellence or complete ineptitude in any one category might be enough to rule out performances in others, but those are my top four.


Julian S. is the warden round these parts

Superboy’s Imprisonment: Why wasn’t he just sent to the Phantom Zone?

Now I’m pretty sure that Julian posed this question just so that I’d link his website The PhantomZone.net. It’s an interesting place and I found his Top Ten to rather telling. Some of his picks left me scratching my head, while others had me nodding in agreement.

But back to his question; because the Phantom Zone isn’t that secure. Let’s run down a list of folks who’ve come across what we call the Phantom Zone; Prometheus, White Martians, Loophole and the Queen Bee. Oh yeah, those are all bad guys!

So with those folks having access to the Phantom Zone, would you really want to send Superboy there and have him possibly escape?

Oh, and there’s also the fact that they tried to put him in the Phantom Zone during Infinite Crisis (remember Speedy’s Blue Arrow?) and it didn’t work out that well.

I’m guessing that the good guys didn’t just want him imprisoned, but also under guard, something that the Phantom Zone doesn’t provide.

Tim, why do you think that Supes wasn’t put in the Phantom Zone?

All your reasons are good ones, Mathan, but clearly the best is that he was already there. They tossed him into the Phantom Zone and it took him less than five minutes to break out. DC needs him to break out eventually for some big crossover down the round, but they don’t need him to break out two days after Infinite Crisis ends.


Nalydpsycho asks a really good question

What has Bruce Jones done to qualify him to write so many DC books?

I’m not Bruce Jones’ biggest fan, but the guy does have a career in comics that stretches back three decades, so he’s built up quite a resume. He also managed to get some good press for his work on The Incredible Hulk, which prompted DC to sign him to an exclusive deal.

As a result he’s doing quite a bit of work for DC. I really wasn’t a fan of his Vigilante (which had an ending that was telegraphed very far in advance) and his latest issue of Nightwing is far from instilling me with hope.

But really you could ask the same question about quite a few of DC’s creators; Judd Winick, Will Pfeifer, Stuart Moore, Justin Gray and Jimmy Palmiotti all write more than one DC title. Each of those creators could probably have their accomplishments questioned (though not by me, because I love their work). It’s really just a matter of taste.

Tim, do you dig Bruce Jones DC work?

No, not really. His record with DC is not even as good as his record with Marvel. With Marvel he produced Gentlemen’s Agreement (a story from Tangled Web) and the first two or so arcs of Incredible Hulk that I quite liked. With DC…no winners yet.

I have to say Mathan, that comparing Jones to some of those other writers is kind of a weak correlation. Consider this: since Jones came on DC last year he has written or be signed on to writer Vigilante, Man-Bat, Nightwing, Deadman, and Warlord. That’s five titles in a year! Especially coming off his fizzling end at Marvel (I still can’t bring myself to acknowledge the Hulk/Thing miniseries in my long boxes) that’s crazy.


“Wait…Bruce Jones is writing me?! Oh no! What? Oh…it’s some other guy called Deadman he’s writng. Whew…dodged a bullet there, eh?

Now compare that to, say, Judd Winick. Winick has been with DC for about five years. In that time he’s written (or is about to write) Green Lantern, Green Arrow, Outsiders, Batman, First Thunder, and the Shazam book. That’s six titles in five years. And consider that GL, his first assignment at DC, was the only book he wrote for awhile AND he had already won a boatload of awards for Pedro and Me, was beloved for his Barry Ween stuff, and was a proven seller because of Exiles.

Now, Jones’ luck seems a little more unusual, no?


Soak1313 is making a list

Okay so here we go. Who all died in IC#7?

Aaron is a parrot.

How about role call of those who gave their lives in the final issue of Infinite Crisis? Bonus points if you can throw it into some sort of “______ was killed by ______” format. I tried to navigate thru the 3,000 pages of responses/posts on the IP Nexus Forum, but to no avail. There was lots of bloodshed, but who WERE these people dying left n’ right?

Two of my most loyal readers (at least those who provide questions) and they’ve both got the same question. It must be kismet.

Here’s a breakdown of the action:

Bane breaks Judomaster’s back and maybe killed him.
Prometheus kills Peacemaker.
Vigilante, Wild Dog and Crimson Avenger gun down the Trigger Twins and some Madmen.
Black Adam rips off the head of Amazo, possibly killing him.

Superboy Prime killed Solomon Grundy, Geist, Ballistic, Razorsharp, Mongrel, Nightblade all by the end of page four.

Page five saw Superboy Prime killing Boss Moxie (the neck snap) Baron Blitzkrieg (the heat vision) and Charaxes (getting ripped apart).

Zauriel is struck by Superboy Prime’s heat vision too, as is Breach who then explodes, possibly taking out Looker and Technocrat.


“Come on! I’m an angel, you know I’ll be back. Plus, me and Grant go back a ways.”

Later in the book Superboy Prime kills Kal-L and 32 Green Lanterns.

Oh yeah, and Joker kills Alexander Luthor.

And yeah, I think that’s about it.

Tim, did I miss any and more importantly how did Gunfire escape the death list?

Near as I can tell, you missed none. Nicely done.

As far as Gunfire avoiding the Reaper, would you want to be responsible for the death of the preeminent 90’s superhero? No, and neither would Geoff Johns. So, on the basis of his awesomeness, Gunfire survived.

Plus, DC really dug my Gunfire as hostage negotiator revamp and they certainly couldn’t use it if Gunfire was dead, now could they?


Soak1313 needs to properly assess the wound

What exactly happened to doomsday when the 2 Supes busted him in the face? (The art was sketchy for me but I couldn’t tell whether they just really badly cold cocked him or they knocked his jaw off).

Um, they stopped him. They beat him up really bad. There’s a chance they even knocked him unconscious. But they certainly pummeled him.

Tim, did they knock his jaw off?

I doubt it. But maybe.

By the way, after his big reveal in the Villains United Special (and given his history), did Doomsday go down like the biggest chump in the world or what? Am I the only one that though that?


Soak1313 is staring at his milk carton.

Lastly who were all the heroes on the screen listed as missing?

Ok from right to left;

Top Row: Bumblebee, Uncle Sam, Cyborg, Animal Man, Adam Strange
Second Row: Dolphin, Spectre, Hawkgirl, Firestorm
Third Row: Alan Scott, Tempest, Black Canary, Blue Beetle
Last Row: Starfire

Most of those heroes were part of Donna Troy’s space team. Two were attacked by the Spectre, one is the Spectre.

We actually know that eight of those missing are ok, while the others have yet to be seen.

Tim, are there any characters missing the DCU that you’re worried about?

I don’t know about worried about, but I am looking forward to/hoping for the return of Animal Man and Tempest and the birth of the brand new Spectre.


“If the angel survives, I must too, right? I mean, Grant was my friend first, after all.”


Unfortunately that’s the end of the column (blame Soak, he said “lastly.”) However we will be back next week with even more questions and answers. Feel free to email me your comments/questions or you could post them on our crazy fresh thread.

But before I go here’s my question to you; Which OYL book has been the biggest disappointment in your eyes?

“I feel I must interject here; you’re getting carried away, feeling sorry for yourself.”

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