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There is no question that Joe & Heidi were presented as the villains this season, but despite this depiction, you had to feel for them after Joe’s knee was injured and a blind U-Turn left them in last place and eliminated from the show. I had the chance to interview the married couple and we discussed why they couldn’t figure out the Morse code, what they think about Jeff and Jordan being on another reality show, their alliances with Allie & Steve and Carol and Brandy and how their kids cried when they saw Phil tell them that they were gone. Definitely worth a listen.